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Motorola Phone Models => Motorola A780/A1200/E2/E6/E680/V8/Z6 => Topic started by: GeozTsai on June 13, 2008, 04:15:43 am



Title: Kalid Remake
Post by: GeozTsai on June 13, 2008, 04:15:43 am
Can we remake or take out things from the kalid f/w to put on non kalid f/ws?

like softlock or task mgr...

maybe we can take the ilaunch bar out too?


Title: Re: Kalid Remake
Post by: arctu on June 13, 2008, 04:59:36 am
short answer: no.
long answer: yes. if there is someone who can do ASM coding like the kaleid developer.


Title: Re: Kalid Remake
Post by: BlinK_ on June 13, 2008, 05:01:05 am
I don't have a clue how they made them. But I am too interested.

Is kaleidoscope a different kernel? Or is it just some addon libraries? Maybe someone with more knowledge can answer. Or is it modified libraries?


Title: Re: Kalid Remake
Post by: arctu on June 13, 2008, 05:51:35 am
modified libraries and binaries. ;D


Title: Re: Kalid Remake
Post by: GeozTsai on June 13, 2008, 05:59:32 am
...
then how did they maks softlock c+*?
or task mgr?


Title: Re: Kalid Remake
Post by: steel00 on June 16, 2008, 07:57:06 pm
I didnt know the kaleido functions were made in ASM!!!
that kinda sucks


Title: Re: Kalid Remake
Post by: kidscracker on August 01, 2008, 03:03:11 pm
WOW! the so famous kalid was made in asm? GREAT! i'm an asm coder so may be i'll try to remake it if i get more info about the libs and if my favourite compiler (FASM) support the processor of the rokr , BTW what is the processor? there's any source code or fragment of the original kaleid? if someone have more info please PM :D


Title: Re: Kalid Remake
Post by: Darkslider on August 05, 2008, 03:13:03 am
WTF ASM?o_O
I know one guy of developers.I know the true answer,but it is secret.
Relax,motobrothers,you never learn the truth about this.


Title: Re: Kalid Remake
Post by: kidscracker on August 05, 2008, 07:16:55 am
Well anyway i think that disassembling the libs won't hurt anyone no? :P jeje i've translate the Kaleidoscope MPKG (Really teh .lin file) to Spanish but as it enables the Kaleidosopes features but t doesn't disable them, ASAP i'll be correcting this, and release. Back to the Kaleid thing i think that with a research in the opcodes of the libs i'll find something interesting ;)


Title: Re: Kalid Remake
Post by: AV3LaR on August 05, 2008, 11:34:01 am
Wow thats awesome kidscracker
Darkslider :
Just SPAM???, what he works for Moto and he developed kaleidoscope in secret jaja?


Title: Re: Kalid Remake
Post by: Darkslider on August 06, 2008, 08:32:02 am
Nope,it is not opcode.And there is no features like kaleid, in stock phone.No opcode will work to these upgrades.
It's an modification.


Title: Re: Kalid Remake
Post by: NestorM on August 06, 2008, 11:14:07 am
maybe you and All Russians modders can finished kaleid project???


Title: Re: Kalid Remake
Post by: kidscracker on August 07, 2008, 07:37:07 am
Oh sorry, i mean the code of the libs. Now i'm using IDA to get the asm codes, but as you will know it will need a lot of work, but it's not imposible. Well i've disassebled other programs before, but not in ARMassembler, so now i'm learning the new instruction set of the ARM processors, as soon as i learn a reasonable set of instructions i'll be able to understand the logic of the code. other thing that i must learn is how to cross copile under windows, if someone can help me please :D. any new i'll let you know.


Title: Re: Kalid Remake
Post by: Exploited on August 07, 2008, 07:57:32 am
I was thinking that the kaleidoscope apps are C/C++ apps but I may be wrong here... Assembler is a good but really unpractical idea - I don't trust that anyone will have the time and nerves enough to develop visual apps in assembler :)


Title: Re: Kalid Remake
Post by: kidscracker on August 07, 2008, 08:24:45 am
Well i'm a ASM programmer, i've mke my own Msn Messenger in pure ASM 4 years ago, and make many visual programs in asm on windows, not under linux =(, and and i really like it ;). Anyway i think that with some long nights and some cups of coffe i'll find something interesting ASAP as i get familiar with the ARM ASM sintax :D. May be the Russian modder will give us a clue to do what they already did. Anyone is with me?


Title: Re: Kalid Remake
Post by: Exploited on August 07, 2008, 08:32:04 am
we are all with you... However expect no real programming help around... If you can get in touch with some developer from motofan or moto.it168 personally - it will be awesome, however they do not respons a lot :(


Title: Re: Kalid Remake
Post by: kidscracker on August 07, 2008, 08:37:16 am
thanks Exploited, well i'll try to contact them, but where to start? i've been surfing moto.it168 using the google tranlator, but it's difficult :S, if someone has the mil of a russian modder that is related with Kaleidescope please give me it by PM or here. And about the Crosscopiler any help is welcome :D. BTW, from where can i download the C Headers for using the E2 libs?


Title: Re: Kalid Remake
Post by: Exploited on August 07, 2008, 08:40:11 am
Darkslider is a member of Motofan. He may be able to help


Title: Re: Kalid Remake
Post by: NestorM on August 07, 2008, 02:57:41 pm
For kaleidoscope project you need contanct with Motofan. because they are the makers of kaleidoscope feature.


Title: Re: Kalid Remake
Post by: kidscracker on August 07, 2008, 05:35:22 pm
Done, asked Darkslider for help. well i think thta now it only matter of time so crossing fingers...


Title: Re: Kalid Remake
Post by: Taurnil on August 08, 2008, 03:38:27 pm
talk to arctu/faruq, he can help ya with the libs.


Title: Re: Kalid Remake
Post by: kidscracker on August 08, 2008, 06:38:29 pm
Tarunil i'm adding you to my msn today, i hope it won't bother you :D. today i'm going out but may be other days we will speak in our native language about some doubts that i have :D.


Title: Re: Kalid Remake
Post by: Taurnil on August 08, 2008, 08:24:41 pm
np dude.