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I think E2 sound quality better than E1 at first time i bought it.
But i'm disappointed with it, E2 bass is too much than trebble and mid range.
It also have sound skipping problem when playing music.
After flashing with many firmware, i feel Katze3 is best for sound.
Now i have modified gain_table and param_table for improving sound quality.
The bass is deep and powerfull but not too over, treble and mid range is balance.

<<EDITED 14/9/2008>>
Using P2KCommander:
1.Launch P2KCommander (v.4.9E or later) --> Options tab -->select Use P2K05 commands (override autodetect).
2.Relaunch P2kCommander, then connect E2 to PC (set phone connection to modem).
3.Copy original param_table and gain_table.bin from /a p2k phone system (left side) to PC folder (right side) for backup.
4.Delete param_table and gain_table.bin in /a phone folder, then copy modified files from PC folder to /a phone folder (P2KCommander can't auto replace, so you must delete it first).
5.Change param_table and gain_table.bin attribute to system (press F2).
6.Reboot your phone to take effect.

Using P2KTools VS:
1.Launch P2KTools VS (v3.0.8 BUILD 864) --> Setting --> P2K mode --> P2K Protocol version: P2K05.
2.Relaunch P2KTools VS, then connect E2 to PC (set phone connection to modem).
3.File Manager --> press Refresh --> delete param_table.bin and gain_table.bin --> copy modified param_table.bin and gain_table.bin --> choose atrributes param_table.bin and gain_table.bin to System --> press Change attributes.
4.Reboot your phone to take effect.


Download Mirror:
http://www.4shared.com/file/62920619/398f6d24/F2B_GTPT_FINAL_MOD.html

Are you ok??? E2 does not use this like E1...do you understand?
is not the same table.
E2 = ezx_volumetable.cfg
E1 = gain and param table
:)

hmmm im so confused too.. when E2 use gain and param table?

yeah me confused as well..

gain_table.bin & param_table.bin = we can change volume, treble, bass, and bass boost level.
ezx_volumetable.cfg = we can change volume level only (it's looks like equalizer setting, but its not.. LOL)
E2 have ezx_volumetable, gain_table and param_table.

I forgot, after replace the gain_table.bin & param_table.bin, restart the phone to take effect.
If you confused you can try it, but backup your original files at first.
Best to use with Katze3, but still give effect on other FW.  :)

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You try to say param and gain table can be put in the files system of rokr e2??? but where is located this param and table in the files system?? I never see anything on the system.

System directories that i said is PC directories/hardisk drive, not E2 system.
In Radiocomm (File System Explorer), E2 called Motorola directories and PC called system directories.
Param and gaintable in (/a) folder in E2.
You can't find (/a) folder from your phone, it can be access from PC software like Radiocomm, P2KCommander v4.9E, etc.

anyone try this ???

where to download such radiocomm??.. any link??..

EDITED : found already..sorry ^^

I tried it in p2kcommander. I copied the edited gaintable and param_table in /a. Right now I cant compare yet the audio quality but I feel a little improvement.

I think this files are not used by system.

Agree with DDSH

so its not effected..

I have tested and worked perfectly.
It was much better. I am using the Ultimate and the sound was 100% better. Recommend. Thank you.

Sorry for my bad English, I am Brazilian.

Very Good. Is Perfect.
Thanks.

herkkkss.. have u try it? its working well?

but how to connect e2 to p2k commander... seems like p2k didnt detect my phone...any tutorial ?..  :)

Before connect E2 to PC, change P2KCommander setting at first.
Go to option, sellect "Use P2k05 commands (override autodetect)" then relaunch P2KC.
Connect E2 to PC, now you can access /a.

Note: Radiocomm and P2KC can't auto replace, so you must delete original gaintable.bin & paramtable.bin then copy modified ones.

@fade2black

should i connect my phone using memory card mode or what?
i already did like what in your tuto but still..my phone cant connect to it?.. help me plssss..

I think it's effective. I compared the two gaintable files, the original has more bass while the downloaded files has less bass.

have u tried it?.. can u give me tutorial how to do it?.. i've tried it but p2k commander didnt detect my phone.. why?

- Use P2kcommander v4
- Set USB connection to Modem

thx cordagz..it worked!.. but i never used p2k before..how to copy fade2black's gaintables files into /a ?.. how to paste it?.. i already in /a

Edited: ok i've got it...sorry for being such a troublesome... ^^

Are you sure that works???

That can be a new "stage" for our E2.

I connect it and i can edit seems and everything like my old V360...

I really cant believe it...

hey, is this real?

what do you mean by saying that E2 original bass is high?
I think that original E2 is LESS bass, and the bass Boost option can't work,
this is one of things that make me sick of it, so why do you want to reduce the bass?
I've compared E2 to other phone like Nokia 3250, SE W300, SE W850, and even my Creative Zen Stone Plus mp3 player, and the result is E2's bass is the worst.
anyone can modify it too get more bass?I need more bass, not less bass
and arer you sure it make the Bass Boost work perfectly from 1 to 7?

E2 bass feel high because its not balance with treble and mid range.
I dont turn down bass level, but turn up treble and fidelity of sound. So all range of frequency is balance and suitable for all music genre.
Maybe if i have a more time, i will upload modified gain & paramtable with more bass  :)

im waiting for it.. ^^

i have tried it already .
works well .i heard something difference  indeed

hey, I'm waiting for it, bro!

I tried it and I'm feeling it works, the sound is changed, I don't know it 's only a autosuggestion or real, but I feels better, but hey? I copied the original gan table and param table, and is it rue that these 2 files are "0 bytes" in size?am I wrong?

Fade2Black, there's one problem, the bass bosst feature still doesn't work
does your E2's BassBoost work well when you listen to music via headset?
(you can find it on Music->Setup->Stereo Effects->Bass Boost)
I'm upset because my e2's Bass Boost doesn't work, when I set the level from 1 to 7, even when I turn it on or off, there's no difference between them when I use earphone, but when I listen to it via built-in speaker, it works well

@soccerholic

The bass boost works with our E2 but you can't feel it in headset. Try connecting your E2 in big speakers with amplifier and bass boost works but for me, I don't like the audio quality of bass boost.

ah, so I must wait for the next gain and param table which improves bass, I wonder if it E2 can have deep bass just like SE Walkman's mega bass,
but how to edit it manually?

E2's bass boost level 1-7 still give effect via earphone but not significant.
Do you try my mod gain & paramtable? What you feel about this bass level? You can report me for my next mod gain & paramtable (for bass fans)  :)

so seems can be edited from radiocomm, right? so other things can be modded with it?

well, I tried and work perfect...hehehehe.
hey can you make with more bass? everybody want more bass...hahaha :)

errkk.. so can we put E398's GT for E2.. maybe it works great

hmm, great idea, how about it, fade2black?


no, I can't feel the difference, in other phones like nokia 3250, when I set the bass bosst on, I still can feel it although it's not significant, but in E2, there's no difference if I set the bass boost or not

Yes, I tried your gain and param table, feels better, but I think it lacks bass...

hey, how to edit gain and param table?

and why the original gain and param table's size is just "0 bytes"?even when I open them using hex editor like UltraEdit, the file is empty! so what does you write onto these 2 files?

GT and Param Table can edit using P2kVstools

No, E2's PT and GT can't be changed with another phone. I have tested it.

err, where I can download it?I've tried googling but no result


why the original gain and param table's size is just "0 bytes"?even when I open them using hex editor like UltraEdit, the file is empty! so what does you write onto these 2 files?
I wonder if there's something wrong...

does Motorola leave it empty?

I tried mod it with MOTO SOUND 1.2.0.8 and works fine...try it. :)

  only a little effect??

they dont feel out

use GT Editor or Moto Sound

#fade2black
i copy param & gain from /a using radiocomm and paste it to my /C. the file shows "0 bytes" is it normal??

i tried this and i can feel some differences. hope for better param & gain table! ;D

++ fade2black

eyah I got it too, 0 bytes, how can it happen?

I have tried it, original files size is 0 bytes. It's bug of radiocomm file system explorer.
Use P2KCommander v.4.9E or later to copy files from E2 <Edited tutorial>
This original E2 PT GT.

ermm P2k Commander is safe mode.. thanks Fade2black.. i cannot edit my gt using Moto sound.. which software are u using to edit E2's GT

hey, I tried P2K commander V.4.9E and everything works well!

I wonder how to edit the gain table?...

You can use P2KTools VS to mod E2's PT and GT.
Don't forget change P2K protocol setting to P2K05 before connecting your phone to PC.

yeah.. i've try it last night.. i will share my Gt later

Can it use with ezx_volumetable ?

maybe its work.. just try and error

EDIT:i've upload my GT.. try and comment it

Thanks Rauna...testing

thanks bro Rauna, I'm testing your Gt, btw, what is its character?deep bass?or rich treble?

Wow! GTMXTR sounds good.

thanks a lot fade2black... :) it works well with me  but do this modified gain&parm tables affect ezx volumetable one level?

hey, what mode should I connect my E2?it doesn't recognize my E2, I've changed the protocol, anyway

@ahmed hosny
No, it doesn't affect ezx_volumetable. It feel more loud because some setting like treble and fidelity level turn up.

@soccerholic
Set your phone to modem mode. Just relaunch P2Ktools VS if your phone not detect.

in my GTMXTR just adding more bass.. u can feel the bass with ur earphones and loudspeaker.. when EQ mode is OFF or ROCK.. u can add Stereo Effect Mode such as Bassboost up to 4.. and Spatial Wide is working well too..

WTF...really? Bass boost working? This what i'm waiting for, gonna try it soon
thx a lot

Great work guys!!! I'am gonna try this now. Can someone say, how can i modify this files? Any program?

who talk'd about bass boost? ...

maybe this is the secret of KATZE's sound??
long time din hear from adrian...

Adrian is not using E2 just now..

Tested..
Great job fade2black.
this what i call music..
this mod give more power to E2 sound output...

Wow....I can't believe it.It really works.Thanx...++

IS it affecting the headphone output only?? or both loudspeaker and headphone output??

more to Headphone

i'm using Titanium Extreme 2 and i don't feel any diffrence..

any1 mind to shed the light?

Change GT PT files attribute to "system" then reboot your phone.

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This my new mod gain_table & param_table, more bass, more trebble, and more power.
<Attachment files updated in first post>
I was compare with E1. E2 soundquality can beat it :D

its already set to system and i still feel no diffrence...

btw just flashed to K4RE and still the same -.-"

Check files size, its must not 0 bytes.
Try on Rokr Ultimate, i have tested new mod GT PT with it.

@fade2black
can you tell me, in what hexa bit you make change..
what i mind is when you edit this GTPT with hexa editor..
thax before

you rock!

i'm using MAXX and i don't feel any diffrence..? :(

bass boot doesn't effect too...

@ maz_popo
Use P2KTools VS, go to Sound Editor.
Just try and error, which value give best effect.

@ k4bo3l
Tested on rokr ultimate.
Try replace GT PT files using P2KTools VS, go to File Manager.
This not affected Bass Boost setting.

Thank you so much. will try this

@fade2black

do u have your own volumetable.cfg ?
can u share with us too.. ^^

I don't modify volumetable.cfg

Tested 2 different gain_table (Stock & GT PT) over and over again and I really think it doesn't have any effect on the quality of the audio. I'm not sure, but in my phone (MAXX E2 II), there's no difference when either of the two are applied. I'll look more into this..

it wont work on MAXX series....i allready try it now i use blackstorm and katze and it work well....... and be carefull u all must make sure the gTpT copied well otherwise u will experience horrifying moment like me when i cant hear any sound from speakr when make or receive phone call......  ;)

The biggest question i have in mind was, is gtpt changing when we flash our phone?

I'm using MAXX 3 and it's work, make sure to reboot the phone after changing GTPT  :)



Yup, it will back to default if you flashing shx files (BP part of FW).

thanks!!!!

Ow is it really work on your maxx 3? i have big sound problem with maxx3, the sound in high volume 5-7 really make me frustation, i dont know how to describe it but sometime the volume is high and sometime its lower. so i working GTPT with Blackstorm and it work well but not good enough compare to E398\E1...is there any chance E2 sound will get better? if not now i'm thinking to back to E1, me  and my girl really satisfy with the sound quality of e398 i gave her.

You can edit GTPT with P2KTool VS or MotoTables, so you can change the bass and trebble setting. It need try and error...
The firmware with best sound is Katze3. Have you try it?

ya i allready try it but it very slow isnt.... which FW do you use?

Yes, it slower compare to the MAXX or Blackstorm.
Now, I'm using MAXX 3.

maxx 3....and you change your GTPT with yours and the volume table is original from maxx3?

I wonder how Katze could have that surround sound?

May I share my edit GTPT..
Please try it... :)

Yes, no problem when using my GTPT and MAXX3's volumetable.



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hi friends, can you tell me what offset to modify treble and bass Using Hex editor (XVi32) -when listen music Handsfree mode. I mean the sound earphone (not external speaker). i need bigger bass, smaller treble ?
please, i really need this

i need to turn down treble....and turn up bass. (in earphone)
somebody, willing to help me, any tutor ? what offset

Use P2KTool VS or Moto Tables for edit Gaintable and Paramtable (treble, bass, bass boost, etc.)

Fade2Black...

Thanks man..

My Rokr E2, now, have a really loud sound...

Like my Ex - Rokr E1 (I losed it... T-T)

Thanks man...

Sorry for my poor english..
I'm brazilian..!!

Cheers

@Phil
Can you make a GTPT and ezx_volumetable.cfg (or to be simple audio modding) section, so that we can post our creation there or search for good GTPT or ezx_volumetable.cfg easier? i think it's reasonable, since it's quite fun, and can be a benefit for us.

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