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is there are any itunes software for e2 like the one on e1?

cTunes maybe?

I think it can be. But must do modification to the PDS part like mod e398. The modification is adding seem 0371 (iTunes seem). After it, do reflash PDS (It need testpoint to do that, because it can't do with bootloader). I don't try this because it must disassemble phone cover. It can broke the phone warranty. Anyone try this??

Sorry my bad english

Wont work. Our phone have no Synerj class. Use rockbox instead?

E2 is not P2k Phone like E398.

rockbox pwns itunes. Totally.

What is synerj class?
Any trick to make iTunes work on E2 (P2K05)? Because it just software.
Rockbox is awesome music player. But, E2 with iTunes is cool  :)
That's make ROKR popular as Music Phone.

Our fone can not run Corelet applications, that's why we can't put itunes....

@fade2black
E2 is not P2K05. E2 is a (prototype) LJ Phone.

@ arctu
E2 is P2K05 phone with Linux OS. I can use P2KTool VS Ver.3.0.8 build 864 and P2KCommander Ver.4.9.E.
In the setting options, it must be set to P2K05 commands / P2K05 protocol version.
I can edit seem, access fisrt partition (gaintable, paramtable, etc) in here.
In RadioComm, E2 also known as P2K05 (look at setting => test command format).

There is rumor, in old firmware (prototype fw) including iTunes. Because bussiness reason, maybe it was removed from E2. We know that Apple was released their own music phone, that is iPhone.
Before ready to be released in the market, iTunes include in E2. We can see in the original iconres.ezx contain iTunes icon and iTunes folder in MTD structure (/proc/mtd/).

Maybe, if motorola staff read this forum and they have iTunes for E2 (that never release) can share with us. Or wait until someone make iTunes work on our E2, Russian modders maybe.

it would be nice to have itunes in our E2 :), i think that is posible but ... it may be dificult

@fade2black
Really? I don't think so.
I think P2K05 is different with Linux.
P2k05 -> New Native Motorola OS.

I think not iTunes but iRadio.

Yes, maybe some java-master can make it. Or convert iTunes corelet to midlet ;)

yeah maby but , what i said is hat if someone that know rokr e2 work in it in a shot period of time we may have itunes but nobody put his/her hands on job(making itunes for rokr e2) we arent going to have itunes for rokr e2 and thats a shame


sorry my bad inglish XD

Yeah, iTunes was "supposed" to be in E2 but it was taken out. There's no reason for Motorola to provide us the unreleased iTunes. Besides, that would break Apple-Motorola agreement. So stop hoping for iTunes. (:

P2KTools includes support for Linux phone.

(Oh, that reminds me, maybe the iRadio project is scrapped)

To have iTunes on our phone, a person can make it:
1. QT Based, which is actually possible but I don't think people want to waste time on a "clone". Focus on rockbox instead.
OR
2. Java Based, a lot of limitations.
OR
3. (ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE) Hack the kJava application to add corelet libs.

Seriously, why does some people love iTunes so much? We have rockbox which is a lot better in terms of features.

I like iTunes interface...only that... The only possible way (and the best way) is to make the clone in QT based application...but who are interested to make it? :)

i dont know:) but i wish to have itunes in my rokr e2 maby someone could make itunes for e2 for us to stop  crying for it XD

I'm rockbox user (proud to Mr.Ketut P. Kumajaya a.k.a Blackhawk). I like it and iTunes too.
It just taste, I like iTunes interface and sync with iTunes player on PC (Windows or MacOS).

Before version 3.0.8, P2KTools not support E2 (no P2K05 protocol option)

I agree totally with arctu and keagles...   rockbox >>>>>> iTunes.

i´m not saying that itunes is more than rockbox i´m only say that I want itunes for e2 because i prefer itunes than rockbox,i know that is easy to say someone have to create itunes for e2(what i supouse is not very easy)

Yeah, we not debate about which is better, itunes or rockbox.
Rockbox is not iTunes, it can not syncronize with iTunes player on PC.
Some E2 user still want iTunes work on E2, although they use rockbox too.


Thanks for the solution, but we don't know who will make that happen.

thats right, if i had known how to make itunes work in e2 i would have made it XD

it's easy to make it happen... pick up a programming language and put in a lot of effort.

i've just started programming for E2 about 2 months ago and I've learnt alot. Ask keaglez when he actually started making scripts. (he's quite a pro now) (;

arctu, can u make native-linux iTunes (mpkg) ?? ^^

Im not a pro...im still learning...and totally a noob... :) I start making scripts a few months ago, with a simple if else only script... Haha... Then i got many idea of script i want to create, start learning with google and other source, ask my friend, etc... ;D Now i learnt very much... :) I should go to the next stage of programming language now... lol (i will..)

Btw about iTunes...if you want to sync with iTunes PC, of course you can...using iTunes Agent and connect as a removeable disk... :)

I prefer winamp to iTunes for sync-ing music library :D

stop flooding!!! What great idies! I want 2 iTunes 2 E2, but WHO can make it????

the discussion of this iTunes thingy is pointless and I don't like seeing people wishing for a miracle. the idea is simple, you want it, put in some effort instead of sitting down and praying for it to drop from the sky.

so, in this case, offer a bounty($$$) or something.. someone out there might take the project up for money.

I do some effort to make this, but not succeed yet.
I will try some tricks like TomeQ's guide (PDS and SEEM edit).

@crz
Are you from russia? Can you asking russian modders (like: hobbit19, TomeQ, Kaleidoscope developer) about iTunes work on E2?
 
P.S: Blackhawk and Mr.Poer don't have E2. They are EZX linux master and Java master.
Genius and humble person (NOT work for money or popularity) :) :) :)

^ I edited iTunes 1year ago. Called iTunes Revolution.

FYI: iTunes is Corelet, needs some SEEM/PDS & was designed for P2k platform.

and you think you ll have luck in this?

Some people just don't understand. (: Pizzadox, you should help explain P2k and LJ difference.

@fade2black
Ofcourse, people do it for the community. But, some people would appreciate and would feel that the time they spent in front of their computers is worth while. Also, devs risk bricking their phones... And if it were to brick, would the community pay for it? NO.

Also, fyi... even though Blackhawk do it for free, he received support and help from the community... he received an A1200 to make rockbox compatible for A1200/E6/E2. That's what I call community effort. Get what I'm conveying here?

Either way, iTunes sucks(except for the interface). For RockBox, I don't need to need to refresh database to hear my songs... Isn't that just good?

yeahh,, u are right arctu.. even itunes have a simple function for music but it doesnt mean.. iTunes is the best.. previously im really obssesed about iTunes but after i found Rockbox.. no need iTunes.. but i still hope that iTunes will be full working at ezx phones soons

But before that, is there any source already for iTunes?

^ no, iTunes is not opensource.

But if you want java iTunes on ROKR. you can find java decompiler ;)

:) It will hard without source...I think no one will want to make one (which start by 0) since we have Rockbox now...that much-much better... We may close the discussion now...

I know that about 6 month ago from motorolafans.com. Because I'm also following news/topic from other motorola modding forum too.

arctu
I was read whole your posting in this forum.
I feel you doing like "The Leader" with say: 'I dont like people...', 'Stop to ....', 'Dont dreaming ...'.
I know you can make E2 aplication (programming E2), but please don't blame newbie like me.
It's not wrong if some people want 'something' for E2, like: iTunes, emulators (GBA,PSP), funlight, SDIO support, etc.

I say again, we dont talking about which is the best, iTunes or Rockbox.
I think if you dont like iTunes, you can leave or close (stopped) this topic.
So we never talking/dreaming it (like you said) again.

Calm down,guys.I think it's a nice idea to have iTunes working on E2.iTunes has more user-friendly interface.Let's working together.I'm totally noob in programming.But I'd like to learn.Our E2 will be great if we have 2 famous music player in the world.I'm busy right now.but I'll start learning after Chinese new year...:)

Man... For sure, what arctu said was true... We cant just modify the iTunes to make it works in E2, we must create from zero (except we have the source)...imagine how hard is it? :( If you want the clone of iTunes, the cTunes is ready for you or KD player that look similar to iTunes...

Hope Valleo (Russian modder who made Media Viewer Applet) can convert/make it for us :D

But java is running slow on our E2 :(

how we can get itunes source?

Nothing is impossible.I wonder why Symbian OS has a lot of application day by day.I got the answer coz they are paid for those works.Linux is free.So,there's not much application coz spending hours in computer and do something which can't provide money is useless.But,since our phone is Linux OS,we can work things out together.We are not paid but this community is build for us to cooperate each other...iTunes on E2?
Seems impossible since corelet won't run on E2.In E2 prototype before it was released,Motorola included iTunes on E2 then iRadio.I think in the E2-iTunes,it used different platform.Then Motorola change E2 platform to JUIX.Motorola was such in a hurry in releasing E2 with JUIX platform.That's why E2 is laggish coz JUIX on E2 is prototype version for market testing.I've ever seen E2 prototype version on some sites while E1 was just released for a few months.The interface is P2K05.
iTunes is running on some Motorola phones like E398,E1,L6,L7,V3i,V3x and L7i.All are based on P2K platform.If E2 can run iTunes,it would be the first in ezx platform.Let's dream and make this happen....:)

Probably I am. (: I'm at fault for that. But, I've never blamed you for anything. So no worries on that. All I'm trying to say is that, the LJ community is not as big as Symbian's.. (somewhat like 100x difference). So, if you want something, it's either you do it, or, wait for someone to do it (which seems impossible). So, at the end of it, I'm really actually saying... don't dream of something that big.. it's almost impossible unless someone really put in a lot of his life doing it... (there was once something hopeless like this at e398 forum.. that is.. trying to run linux on it.. ==")

But still, this is quite possible, just that the time needed and someone who has the expertise. Maybe you guys can learn some java programming and do some.

Hmm, btw, it's not like I'm promoting rockbox. I'm not the real dev for it. (;
And so, this will be my last message on this thread. As you request sir! (:

the only thing we got with this kind of threads is a pointless discussion. There're not many E2 developers. And the few are just not interested in making an E2 port of itunes. There're too many things, more important, to be optimized and improved.
So yeah, maybe it sounds hard, but if you want it, do it and stop crying.

how can i get source code with a java decompiler?

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MicroEdition-Configuration: CLDC-1.0
MIDlet-Name: iTunes_4.52Pro_BETA2
MIDlet-Icon: /iTunes-15.png
MIDlet-Vendor: PoerHardware
MIDlet-Version: 4.52.0
MicroEdition-Profile: MIDP-2.0
SynerJ-CoreApp-0: apple.itunes.iTunesApplet
SynerJ-CoreApp-1: com.motorola.itunes.idle.IdleStarter
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is this the source?

LOL nope... :)

:(

you can use DJ Java Decompiler Trial
Click here (http://www.softpedia.com/get/Programming/Debuggers-Decompilers-Dissasemblers/DJ-Java-Decompiler.shtml)

Just open / double click *.class file to decompile it.

doble click in jar?

just open iTunes.jar with WinRar & extract it.

OR

rename iTunes.jar to iTunes.zip & extract it..


Then happy editing *.class files ^^

what i m supouse to change all files??

what i have to changr to let itunes work corectly?

what i m suppouse to change in this  iTunesApplet

Learn java/j2me language first... ^^