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Hey Modders, how's going?

I have a trouble here, and i want to see if you know about it or know what is it..
When writing a Text Message (SMS), from the 450 Characters available, the phone marks as a "page" every 50 Char.... and each page is send as a Individual SMS, costing me 3 or 4 times more for each message than in other Phone... and i remember that this won't happen in the original e398 Firmware... anyone know how to solve it? Maybe a Seem edit or patch?

Greetings!!

I think that is the way it is. Every text message that exceed the char limit will send and receive as more than 1 page. And each page has its own price.

I Know, but i have sent Text messages from other phones, and the char Limit is 440 Chars..... Why?

Its only ur phone message char limit, but still be sent and receive as more than 1 page. Try it and check ur message price.

Yup, right what prasasti's said, it's universal rule on sending text message by sms, there are only some KB that could sended by sms, so if you send an SMS which has bigger than a quote for one sms, surely it would be splitted to some pages.
As i know, if you take all the quote (450 char), it would devided to 3 pages only, otherwise if use some uniqe char, it would make the size's bigger.
It would happend the same though you use diferrent HP, may be the phones just don't gave you the repport weather you send it on a page or more.
Just try prasasti's said, try to send using another phone, and take all char, after sending, check how many price u've spend to send the message.

just an additional suggestion.. it would be better to set a confirmation message that the message exceeds the 160 character.. just to make adjustments before sending...

SEEM 0032_0001 offset 69 bit 3 set to 1 or ON!..

If your text counter is going backwards, after 298 you are in 2nd message :) That means that first message is 152 letters... It should be 160 I think, but its 152...

it's not ubsolute 152 char, some times i send more that 152, but still sended as a page. i think it deppend on how big the page is (on byte of course).

OOT:hi Niksy, i knew you, u r a master, i've seen you on MoMo. i agreed if you said that you r new, but not noob, u r master man.

hi nalimen
lol whats with you guys and mastas?  I learned with the time and now I know stuff... every1 can do that :)
But not evry1 can be a MotoMafia :P

Sorry for offtopic Jithin :)

@nalimen,
SMS is count by character not byte. And its 160 for 1 page. Some unique symbol not count as 1 character.

@niksy,
what is motomafia? i guess it has the same meaning with masta here.

CMIIW.

motomafia is part of motomodders's staff...(owner, admins & moderators)
correct me if i'm wrong niksy ;)

Ah.. This is not good.. Come back to topic please. "Motomafia" has nothing to do with motohell. Any more offtopic posts will be deleted. ;)

it's what you can see, indside of it, its deppend on the how bytes (or KBytes) you've sends. Try read abbout SMS server from some books or web, you'll get it.

Okay, I will try this in different way.

Its not byte, but bit (thats different).
Text message payload length is limited to precisely 1120 bits.
Text messages can be encoded using a variety of alphabets: the 7-bit alphabet (default GSM), the 8-bit and the 16-bit.
Thats make the maximum individual text message sizes are 160 for 7-bit characters, 140 for 8-bit characters, or 70 for 16-bit characters.
Our normal alphabets are 7-bit but characters in languages such as Arabic, Chinese or Russian must be encoded using the 16-bit.
Since each message start with some user data header, the number of characters per message is lower than stated above (like Niksy said).

may be what you've said is true prasasti , but , don't you kno that 1 Byte is eaqual to 8 bits????so it doesn't matter weather it's on bit or Byte.


8 bits     = 1 Byte
16 bits   = 2 Bytes
1120 bits = 1120/8
            = 140Bytes.

For me, I cant say that. Coz 1 Byte is not equal to 8 bit, but group of 8 bit. It has to be related between all the bit and exactly 8 bit, called octet or something. While default GSM character is 7 bit.
Oops, I guess this is OOT.
Sorry.

from what reference (literature) so you can said that, i know that a byte is equal to 8 bits from book i've read, book about "Rangkaian Logika" (in Indonesian of course). But on Wiki, they said that a byte commonly said as equal to 8 bits, bassicly, a Byte could be consists of 5-12 bits.

But , recently, on computers we used, a byte was defined as 8 bits.

sory OOT.

Uhm.. uhm... this is confusing... so, what you say is that i must use another LangPack or something, and turn on the SEEM recalled before???
And about sending a message on other Phone.. i allready do that, and of course, is only 1 Message in 440 Chars!

Why my beloved Moto.. T-T

@^:you don't have to do anything, the warning only give you a warn if you sending more than a page.
      once again i notice you, don't just look on the ammount of a pages, check your credit, does it realy        only cost for one page??i don't think so, don't only look to how many messages or pages you've send.

Actually, some handset can reassembly and presenting messages as 1 long page. But still will cost u for several page. Its like lying, and i dont like that.

that's one of  moto's differences to the others, moto won't give it without intention.

hmm interesting ... hmm since I remember the original Rockr cost me xD in that way I mean if u exceed the amount of chars , cost u another page .. so ... well :P I dunt think there's something u can do or redo about it ..  but well thats just my opinion xD I will be more than happy if someone find a way to write more with out been charge xD

well,just find a network operator which gives you bonus free sms  ;D