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Anyone using Vista?

Post what you feel about it
(vista sucks at modding, but think something about modding...)

I've used the beta version.. But my PC is too "small" to handle it.. :)
Now I'm satisfied with the vista transformation pack..lol :)

Don't use Vista, don't fall into the trap!

It's really good system(in my opinion) but to see this you have to have at least 2GB of RAM core 2 duo and middle class video card. then you will see it's briliance, the ease of finding things and visual effect.


DO NOT USE WINDOWS VISTA HOME BASIC(its XP in other skin) do not use Home premium most of functions are delated. I was using Ultimate version fo vista and i was really glad of it.

other advantages are DX10, Full MS support, auto drivers finding. so if you have really good comp use vista not xp

I think Vista is quite good when you use it on a gerat computer...
(I'm using ultimate built 6000 "cracked")

I am using Vista x64 Ultimate and I am very satisfied with it... I am not using any special skin - I made it look and feel like Windows 98 - it's lightning fast that way :)

plz do not advertise piracy it's a crim to advertise it and use it

I mean "cracked"
By "IT developer test"  full version ;D

Vista is good operating system. If you are knowledgable enough to stop all not-needed services, to disable all useless visual effects and to configure the security policies in more convenient for the user level way - then you will have a very secure and stable OS, which is fast enough. I do not understand the people who say "It takes a lot of ram and it's slow" - that's not true if you know how to configure it...

Just an example: if you install a FreeBSD web server and you perform FULL installation of all 16000 ports and start all daemons - how do you think that server will perform? It will be deadly slow, buggy, laggy, most probably you will need tons of additional ram and etc. So what do you do instead? The answer is - you install only the software and daemons which you are going to use and nothing else...

So for the people who think that Vista is slow and eats your RAM - just try to disable all features that you are not using and see what will happen... you will be surpised :)

I'm using vista sometimes (3os on my PC :D)

It's great but Flash Player doesn't support it :(

Another wrong thing - you do have both 32bit and 64bit browsers. The 32 bit browser do support flash. Over the top you can install Firefox which will run Flash with no problem.

Currently I am browsing only with the 64bit browser, because most of the spyware and viruses do not affect it. I am only using the 32bit browser when I need flash on safe sites :)

i'm using vista ultimate but so confuse telnet e680i ???

DX10 is being backward engineered ;)


Things I hate about Vista;
HHD Indexing, No need to do this reason they did it was to "copy" Mac OS X
UAC, As standard it's extremly annoying
DWM, the new window overlay can eat away at resources like no ones business
No new FS, MS said they made a new File system for the new OS that was scrapped just like the previous version of "Longhorn"
Stability is still an Issue and Drivers still have their problems now and then
The price tag...I don't wanna pay a few hundred for an OS and even more for the hardware just to run it
Even a few MS Engineers have said Vista isn't great

Things I like about Vista;
Looks nice

Best use for Vista....Use the CD as a Coaster

All in all the best OS MS ever made was MS-DOS

avatar_43 - you are maybe right that some of the things that you mentioned are annoying and useless. What you are missing as a point is that they can be disabled and you are back at the XP level... I am still holding my word - XP is not better than Vista, Vista is just an upgrade of more functions over XP.

I totaly agree


You can turn it of if you like


I think fast searching using HDD indexing is much more confortable than w8ing till the system finds something. Thats the reason why they applyed it in to their system


Longhorn was the prototype name of Vista. The only reason why Vista is not calling Longhorn is that sb registered this name before Microsoft


Drivers is always the problem for whole new system. And if you have orginal Vista the updates ale VERY often so there is no problem with stability.


Actually thay sait that vista has no use(for peeps that knows what comp can do) unless you have Ultimate edition.


So why we are not using Linux or Mac? Ohh... I forgot: Linux: No good programme for graphic Lots of programmes not in native language Problems with uprating(fiding; instaling) Long time of instal updates If you do not know what are you doing with your sestem you can crasch it easly and lose all data Even office has less functions(than MS Office) and is harder to use The only use I found in linux is that I can programme there and if the programme does not work correctly(stuck) I can kill it without killing system Fanny thing of linux is EOG(Eye of Gnomme) programme I really like its short name :P (but I made up my nick first) Mac OS: Good at graphic(ONLY) Apple belongs to Adobe so photoshop is free. but do you know why tere is no photoshop for 64bit CPUs? The ansfes is that when they made it they realased it works better, faster and more stabe on.... Windows! They did not released it only because of that. They only care about money from apple . If i was released nobay would buy Mac So avatar_43 now tell what system would you use if you were a peep that use system at home or work? -system that is free but is hard to operate there is no technikal support(i know Mandrake has it; but it is payed) -system that is good at graphics but it needs special computer wchih is 1.5 price of PC(I do not caunt programmes that very often price is 2 times bigger) -system that can do everything has great technical support is cheap(when you are looking on price of mac), but sometimes cruches(less times if you have orginal system and updates oftem)

May be you should see the rasaults of 'backwording' of DX10 Here is the screeans Game:Age of Conan Same comp but with 2 HDD (one XP-DX9; two Vista-DX10) Screeand 1 http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dx9mb1.jpg and http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dx10qv9.jpg , or Screeand 2 http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dx9so0.jpg and http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dx10ro7.jpg

More words for WinFS - this file system was supposed to be implemented in Vista, but those plans were canceled in June 2006. The reason is that it was still under development (as far as I know it is not finished yet too). For more info http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WinFS

Yes it's sad, because it is really good file system by specifications. We will not see it in 2008 server too (which is again very sad), but maybe in further versions (in 2010 or so)... Good things happens slow :)

Previous versions of Windows Vista were codenamed Longhorn till they moved it on the server,
Also I said Microsoft, I didn't mean any Unix based OS, Linux can be user freindly depending on what distro you get though some hardware is limited, Mac OS X has silent crashes,

Microsoft DOS is the best as it can do any thing to itself, you can rename system files copy them out and pretty much recover an enire system with it, In the GUI (Windows) you can't, Your unable to do in Mac as the ROOT has been buried so deep you'll be lucky to get it back, But Windows does have VERY bad memory management and even with their new core in Vista still fails on it, If Windows XP is "worse" then Vista why are MS Still sending out updates and programs for it...Vista is still a young OS

But meh, It's just my opinion personally I refuse to switch to Vista purely on the basis is it adds nothing new and more complications, If I were to switch OS it would be over to Linux (FreeSpire) Where bug fixes are as fast (if not faster) then MS

"MSDOS" - history from the early 90s, outdated, totally unsecure, 16bit, etc etc - dead

"In the GUI (Windows) you can't" - tell me which file I cannot replace/mod for example? I bet I can hack any :)

"If Windows XP is "worse" then Vista why are MS Still sending out updates and programs for it..." - because if you pay for a product you expect it to be secure. They cannot just forget about their old customers.

"Linux" - true and false. Linux is pretty good, because it is free (quality vs price combination is perfect here). However it has many problems with bugs and this is coming from the design of the project itself. Looking at FreeBSD (and all BSD-like systems) is another story... However we are discussing Vista in this thread... Still holding my words that it's the best OS on the market (if you do not watch the price tag)

1. can i flash e1 & e2 via vista?
2. Does vista support the motorola driver?

my FD corrupted when i was opening that.
corrupt after i aggree to repair that (vista ask me) ~_~
So i must format again

I bought vista so that I can play with DX10...
http://rokr.buildmy.ws/blog/?p=63

Pizzadox619:
1. Yes
2. Yes

Just flashed my E1 (FB3) and E2 (RSD)

no problem :D


i don't know why people still keep XP.
XP+VTP  vs  Vista SP1

Ive been using XP for 6 years now...Reinstalled it only once due to a change of my HDD :) It works pretty good, I optimised it as good as I knew... My P3 couldnt handle Vista... I tried Longhorn once..was still far beta...ehehe it worked but lagged... When I get my PC Im going for ubuntu and $crew micro$oft...

I used Vista for about 3 months and said good bye.. Couldn't find a reason why I should keep it.. Now I'm pretty much satisfied with the new XP vortex v2 2008 :) (The free 'genuine' XP :) )...

I recently formated my hard drive and installed WindowsXP x64... Know what - my comp was fast with Vista, but now it is ... AMAZINGLY FAST :)

i dont like vista...hav no time to synchronize with my taste

for the comparision.. vista is 10x good than xp, but its not compatible yet.. must wait 2 or 3 years for the stability.. same as Windows Xp.. since it release, no body use it becoz not suitable.. but after 2 or 3 years.. its working well..

what I say is - it's the same + more extras that I do not use... The problem is that my comp is very slower with Vista - I am with C2D 2.1Ghz with 4GB RAM and vista is not very fast OS on it

I'll just show u guys this
(http://www.fotorola.com/uploads/f625ae40c0.jpg)

now,really I think vista is peace of c**p,it only looks nice and it's litlle faster then XP... but still it's gonna take a lot time before vista take over XP's space... to then,we'll enjoy in XP  8)

check my desktop too at other thread :)