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here, i am so disappointed because of ROKR E2, why?
E2 is music phone, but it music feature is not so good as it utilities made by modders.
here some things that i mean, some bug in E2 that hasn't finished yet:

1.VOLUME GRADATION IS TOO SIGNIFICANT 
- it means that the volume gap from one volume level to another level is too big. When you sleep while listening music, you need smaller volume, but outside, you will need biger volume level. The default volumetable value for original earphone is 3, so with this setting you will get satisfaction when you listening music in smaller volume level (level1) but when you listening in outside, the volume is not big enoughl. But if we set volumetable value of original earphone to higher, for example, 8, we will get big volume level, but you can't sleep while listening to the music in e2, because the volume in level 1 will be heard so loud!

2.SOUND SKIPPINg
-i think everyone knows about it...

3.THE VERY IMPORTANT: BASS POWER IS WEAK
-ROKR E2's Bast Boost effect, in Stereo Effect setting, is useless. I can't find any differences when i enable it or disable it. Bast Boost in Equalizer is worse, when i activate it, the sound quality is worse, beacuse it's not real bass.
I ever use E2's original earphone with iPod and Creative MuVo, the bass is great, espesially in Creative MuVo, but when i use good 3rd earphone in E2, like sony ericsson walkman's earphone,
the bass is not better than before

4.SEARCH FUNCTION IN MEDIA MANAGER
-I think it's better to add new search category in Music search, like "filename" (you'll get it when you want to search video), because some music file don't have ID3, and it's better if E2 can have real time search, so when we type keyword it'll search without click the button first

5.PLAYLIST CAN'T BE SAVED
-it is too difficult to build new playlist after flashing phone, you will feel it when you have many music files in 1 GB or 2 GB card. in Volmodder MPKG tool there's a backup feature to backup music list, but it's not working.

6.E2 IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH MOST OF SPEAKERS
-3.5 mm jack in E2 is good feature, but why it can't be connected with most speakers? I've tried with Altec Lansing 151i but not worked, some people say portable speaker is compatible with it, but portable speaker is not so good to make a bigger sound

I really like ROKR E2, especially the Linux OS, so please to all FW modder, fix this problem. ROKR E2 is a music phone, so it's better to fix its bug in music feature better than add some utilities,
I believe some modders can do it...
please tell this to all modder, like ilove3d and the others

For the first problem,you can just find a headphone with volume control...for music skipping problem,i've overclocked my phone to 624mhz and problem fixed.about the EQ,the stereo effects and bass make much different if you listen to music via external speaker.last problem,put a resistor on the cable of speaker.so,problem solved...

He meaned it's music phone and has so much bug.All of us know motorola can solve these problems but they didn't..Why?
Because they wanted to sell more phone like e6 vs. After e398 do you think they cant do better music phone for us? But i like e2 and like modding phone.But i know e2 isn't so good music phone.I miss my e398 so much..Think about it: e398's multimedia options with linux.with Same or better vibration speakers and no laggy menu.Yes e2 has 312mhz proc.624 with o/c. but where is that big proc's speed? We cant use..I don't know why motorola didnt make this phone better.
Dont be angry with me.I think all of you think same.

it's all about marketing strategy

poor ROKRE2, i just can't understand what's in they (motorola) head?

Moto has fixed all this.But they didn't fix this on E2.They released another next music phone like Z6.Bass on Z6 is unbelievable.If we set bass boost to 7,U can feel the real bass.It beats Walkman series.Unfortunately,the jack isn't 3.5 mm.And they released Z6m which has jack 3.5 mm.It's all about marketing strategy...

1. The volume is only 7. We just can replace the volumetable. But, it's no problem with me
2. Yap ROKR Ultimate it is. Try ilove3d SELF v2 or music. no more sound skipping ;)
3. No comment
4. All mp3 on my E2 has ID3Tag + artwork :P
5. Before flashing. Try remove cg37.smg & cg42.smg with SBF Tool or EZX Codec
6. Works on Altec Lansing ATP3. But very bad sound :(

If MOTOROLA made available the sources of the system maybe the moders got to correct that problem. But the code is closed is not free as it is the operating system linux for PC.  :-[


Sory for my bad english. 

Moto does not improve the software of the phone they make,instead,they will make a new one,if you hate E2 so much,you can wait for E8,that's a real music phone with memory of 2gb and expandable,3.5mm jack(who knows?maybe it's better this time)music control button....

Im was dissapointed too.. i though 3.5mm jack can suitable for all speaker.. but we must modding before we use.. different with E6, just plug and play.. im so jealous bout that

yeah i think so, when rokr e2 released?

Some of my comments:
3. For my phone, the IS a difference when changing these settings...
6. Get a 3.5mm splitter and plug your earphones on one side and the speaker on the other....

ROKR E2 was supposed to be released 2 years ago I think... E2 is like a beta phone which Motorola tested the new UI with...

how do you do that? i have a splitter too, but my phone didnt recognize it..

In my opinion,E2 is more like a experimental model.I think Moto want to test the new ezx system as well as the response from market.So I'm not surprised at all that it has some problems,both hardware and software.
However,I'm not disappointed at all.E2 is ideal for modding and I cannot find a more suitable phone for me.

It's like when a E2 isn't like a E2...
music lag problom solved by OC
3.5mm earphones can hear...
or u can just buy one of E6 or Z6m's earphones and "plug and play"
I think moto headsets are "bass better" for moto phones...


PS. I believe all modders will release a f/w the best music, speed...etc for E2 at motohell ;)

E2 was supposed to release on first quarter last year,but it's release have been postponed till about August...i've been waiting for it from December 2005 when i first saw news about the phone....so i've waited for months before i bought it....the price of the phone was also too expansive....the official pricing was RM1399 back in August...

ok thanks bro.. i 'll try later..

There's a way so the phone will play on speakers that the phone cant detect when they're plugged in.

Play a song and plug your earphones first into the ROKR E2.. Then you'll hear the phone play the music thru the earphones. Unplug the earphones and QUICKLY plug in the speakers after you remove the earphones. If you did this fast enough the phone wont notice that you removed the earphones and it will continue to play music thru the speakers.. Hope it works for you guys!

Nice trick...

how quickly is that?

Good one, maybe bout 1-2 sec

less than 5 sec, nice trick..

so it actually works?

yes mate! it does work.. so cool!

i think there should be a stick topic named "tricks" haha

too good to be true..
he - didn´t/forgot to - mention that as soon as the music stop or skip to the next one the phone unrecognizes the cable n plays from its own speakers. so.. no use. =/
good trick anyway.

too bad.. its not work for me.. i'll try the others speaker

do u guys know a way to make our e2 recognize any auxiliar output?
it's ok with the RCA cable.. but I tried doing it with another kind of cable.. (3,5jack - p2jack (comes with the ht820 headset)) and it didnt work.
worked doin the trick above.. with that problem that makes it useless though.
i'd love to listen to my music from the phone on my car. heheh =/

hope we'll find a solution.

u can visit Modmymoto.com.. there is guide to mod RCA cable for E2

@Rauna
as i wrote above, i did that trick to other kind of cable which is the one that has both ends similar.. 3,5jack and p2 jack (e398 has this kind of plug)
what i mean is that there should be a way to make any cable work with our phone. doesn't matter which plug.
where i work there is an "electric department"(?) and they r doing some tests on it.
any news I'll let u all know asap..

Great, waiting for first external hardware modding

@amneto
sorry for misunderstood