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Motorola Phone Models => Motorola E398/E790/E798/E1 => Topic started by: buster_merryfield on February 14, 2008, 06:04:12 am



Title: Dead phone... Hardware dead...
Post by: buster_merryfield on February 14, 2008, 06:04:12 am
So... I was flashin' and playn with me phone all last night... I flashed niksy's flash (btw it is one good MP)... Then... I left it to charge over night... When i woke up, phone was all hot and stuff... I disconected the charger and powered the phone... The battery is still low... And there was no signal... I hade full charged battery of E1, put it in... Restored me own backup... Still the same... No signal... And when i put the charger... The charger itself start to buzz... Not loud... But i cannot hear that buzz when i charge E1... I have another charger from me moms v547, same...

What did i done?! TNX PPL!


Title: Re: Dead phone... Hardware dead...
Post by: argetlam on February 14, 2008, 09:13:07 am
what is Ur phone status when U connect it into computer?maybe U need to check Ur hardware,maybe there is some problem in Ur IC power.


Title: Re: Dead phone... Hardware dead...
Post by: buster_merryfield on February 14, 2008, 10:33:02 am
Its all ok... I can acces phone... Flash it...Restore backup...Etc... I think that i damaged those pins for charging on the phone... But what's with the signal?


Title: Re: Dead phone... Hardware dead...
Post by: argetlam on February 14, 2008, 10:42:09 am
Try to change Ur SIM card first.If Ur phone still no signal,maybe U need to check Ur hardware.


Title: Re: Dead phone... Hardware dead...
Post by: NiKSY on February 14, 2008, 11:38:34 am
Hey do you have that torx screwdriver? Try open it up and clean any dirt or anythin like that :S
I dunt have any ideas :S


Title: Re: Dead phone... Hardware dead...
Post by: argetlam on February 14, 2008, 12:28:08 pm
Niksy was right.and also,if U open Ur phone,check the component,if U find any burned component,U will need to get Ur phone to service center coz its very difficult to change by Urself and the risk is very high.


Title: Re: Dead phone... Hardware dead...
Post by: buster_merryfield on February 17, 2008, 10:16:56 am
Yea... It is not the dust... The pins for charging is dislocated... I mean de attached from the board... So... I don't have so precise soldetron... So... I'm using me brothers E1, but that one has broken joystick... So i mapped the volume keys to be Up-down... But... Thans anyway ppl... The repairing of the phone will cost like one whole used phone, so i would rather buy a new one then repair this... But i will have spare speakers in me pocket! ,'-)   tnx ppl


Title: Re: Dead phone... Hardware dead...
Post by: farkzlay on February 17, 2008, 07:51:25 pm
i often charging my e1 and e398 all night without any problem.
are you used non original charger?


Title: Re: Dead phone... Hardware dead...
Post by: buster_merryfield on February 18, 2008, 02:35:07 am
Nope... Original charger that come with the phone, i tried to charge my moms v547 and it works... It is definetley those pins that is used for charging on the phone. That stuff is damaged....


Title: Re: Dead phone... Hardware dead...
Post by: MarkoP on February 18, 2008, 03:17:42 am
I am very sorry buster... But there is something very strange with those chargers (or phones,or battery ???)
A couple times when I was charging my battery,everything was normal,just sometimes the battery don't wont to charge, like the charger is just sitting there... it shows charging battery,but only first line of battery is blinking and blinking... all the time... it can blink like that more than 5 hours... and nothing... then I have to disconnect phone and battery is still low... so I have to charge it again and then it's oke... I realy dont know what's in metter... I also cant charge battery with desktop charger... it can be on charger more than 12 hours and notning... and on the otherside,my friend charge the battery with desktop charger all the time...


Title: Re: Dead phone... Hardware dead...
Post by: NiKSY on February 18, 2008, 07:15:00 am
Marko thats only with your phone... I never had that kind of problem xP


Title: Re: Dead phone... Hardware dead...
Post by: prasasti on February 18, 2008, 07:33:07 am
@Marko
Its look like theres voltage leak on ur batt, u need to replace it.


Title: Re: Dead phone... Hardware dead...
Post by: argetlam on February 18, 2008, 09:53:43 am
@marko
prasasti is right.to make sure,try the other battery which working well.if that problem still happen,check the phone's battery connector,maybe thats need to be cleaned.If needed,also check it with multitester or something like that. compare the result with the working-well phone. Ull see what trouble do U have.

@buster
If its only the pin charger which dislocated,U can try to repair it by Urself using 5W solder.Its quite easy and very cheap!:)


Title: Re: Dead phone... Hardware dead...
Post by: MarkoP on February 18, 2008, 11:28:49 pm
no,no, it hapend olny 2 or 3 times... and battery isn't bad,it's runnin' very good... and nothing is leaking :)
well  I cleaned one time the battery pins with alcohol... I think it won't happen again:)


Title: Re: Dead phone... Hardware dead...
Post by: argetlam on February 19, 2008, 01:51:38 am
also clean Ur charger port and charger pin.maybe the charger didnt connected properly.better to use an electrical cleaner than an alcohol.


Title: Re: Dead phone... Hardware dead...
Post by: MarkoP on February 19, 2008, 02:34:06 am
what's electrical cleaner?


Title: Re: Dead phone... Hardware dead...
Post by: prasasti on February 20, 2008, 08:30:36 am
Aerosol Contact Cleaner, its some liquid to clean electrical contact.
Alcohol should be fine but contact cleaner is better.


Title: Re: Dead phone... Hardware dead...
Post by: buster_merryfield on February 20, 2008, 11:12:15 am
Ok... I can understand that my battery wont charge and that electrical stuff... But that's with the signal? I charge me battery in E1 and put it in E398... Phone shows that battery is ok but there is no signal... I'll try to flash some other MP... But i don't think that is the solution...


Anyone?


Peace


Title: Re: Dead phone... Hardware dead...
Post by: argetlam on February 20, 2008, 11:20:32 am
Ever try it with other SIM card?


Title: Re: Dead phone... Hardware dead...
Post by: buster_merryfield on February 20, 2008, 11:30:14 am
Yea... Just now... All is same... I notice that the phone warms up! I did not charged it or something... Just battery inside and power on... There is signal from time to time, but i cannot reach anything... Not even call center... That is free of charge... Khm...


edit::: I noticed what chip is warming... --Power IC 5188450M06 PCAP MOT.E398-- http://www.deltamobile.lv/index.php?productID=2156

I opened the phone... And that chip is warm...Khm!?


Title: Re: Dead phone... Hardware dead...
Post by: argetlam on February 20, 2008, 12:14:42 pm
Its really terrible if the IC power getting warm only bcoz the phone on. yeah,U get a trouble with Ur ic power.oh,to make sure,is the SIM card which U try working well in other phone?


Title: Re: Dead phone... Hardware dead...
Post by: NiKSY on February 20, 2008, 01:45:29 pm
well the SIM isnt heating for sure, so yeah, you broke your phone allright :D


Title: Re: Dead phone... Hardware dead...
Post by: argetlam on February 20, 2008, 04:29:53 pm
If the SIM is working well in other phone,yeah,U really broke Ur IC power.I mean Ur IC power is really damaged.U can go to motorola service center.If the mechanic say U must change Ur IC power,better 4 U to buy a new phone than change the IC power.new IC power should help,but theres always get an,umm,what it say in english?yeah,some kind of 'side effect' that will make Ur phone will not working as well as b4.and also,the cost is very high and the risk is too high although the expert handle it.


Title: Re: Dead phone... Hardware dead...
Post by: buster_merryfield on February 21, 2008, 08:29:49 am
Yea... I'm gonna buy myself a used one for 35euros... BUT! I will have spare speakers ,'-)... Its a luck that i can make a full backup of the phone... So when i buy a new one... Just flash it... And then all will be like before... Tnx for the help ppl...


Peace